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Post by Ddustz Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:55 am

Dear Encoders of hi10anime,

Since the end of Fall 2013 will comes near, and Winter 2013/2014 will begin, I
would like to request something in regards of you guys doing things:
1. Please, I beg you, do not do Ordered Chapter for ONGOING TV series. I should
had asked this before the start of Fall 2013, but I forgot. So I ask this now.
My arguments:
- Simplicity.
- No patch for messed up timing and whatnot, easy for you (encoders) and easy
for us (leechers).
- Fansubs groups always updating the lyrics, translations, and maybe karaoke effects
for OP-ED, and we will have more patch for this. So same as point two.
- We don't even know whether the shows gonna have the same OP-ED style each episodes,
why would you jump the gun?
2. Please put CRC32 values on your release so that people could easily check the files
after downloads.

I think that's all. Thank you so much for all of your hardworks up until now.
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Post by aborwx Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:24 am

1) I like to put some effort into my encodes.
--> VAFE makes OCing easy.

2) Patches are easy.
--> All you have to do is run the .bat file.

3) I don't care about minor lyric changes.
--> You will eventually upgrade your copy to BD 720p | BD 1080p.

4) Gotta test my psychic powers.
--> Most shows don't have a ton of OPs/EDs.

5) I always use put CRC values into my encodes.
--> Trying to get new rules in place for our encoders is quite a challenge as people ignore/don't read messages on our private page.
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Post by sjoe92 Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:16 am

I'd like to add one suggestion to this. I'd posted this once on the site, but it got ignored. This is regarding the anime which are subbed by multiple fansubs and more than one re-encodes are uploaded by hi10. I've seen this happening a lot this season. Now I appreciate the time spent by you to encode two versions, so don't get me wrong.

Why not mux all the subs in just one encode, the one with best video quality? Only thing you needed to be done is - retime one of the subs. Now as far as I know, this needs to be done only thrice, since the only places where difference comes for different fansubs would be before part-b and after part-a, where ads are. All that is to be done is shift times for the subs- once at the beginning, then maybe at the op and then between parts A and B. I think it saves considerable time working for 10 min in Aegisub, rather than encoding a whole new version, which will take 3-4 hours. Of course, it's your choice what to do, thought I'd just say what I thought.


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Post by RanDom Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:35 am

aborwx wrote:1) I like to put some effort into my encodes.
--> VAFE makes OCing easy.

2) Patches are easy.
--> All you have to do is run the .bat file.

3) I don't care about minor lyric changes.
--> You will eventually upgrade your copy to BD 720p | BD 1080p.

4) Gotta test my psychic powers.
--> Most shows don't have a ton of OPs/EDs.

5) I always use put CRC values into my encodes.
--> Trying to get new rules in place for our encoders is quite a challenge as people ignore/don't read messages on our private page.

I quote this, only last point I think crc aren't really necessay, why would you need them when the torrent automatically does the crc32 check for you? the files downloaded using the torrents are never damaged. Each part of each file has a crc32 value assigned, it's almost impossible to get a wrong crc32 value using the torrents, unless it's done on purpose.

Even if you don't want to download using the torrents, you can use DDL and then synchronzie the mkv file in your hard disk with the torrent file, if it's damaged it won't get 100% synchronized, thus the torrent will download the damaged part for you which is even better than manually redownloading the whole file through DDL and redownloading still makes possible to get a damaged file, because DDL is unstable for many reasons.

sjoe92 wrote:I'd like to add one suggestion to this. I'd posted this once on the site, but it got ignored. This is regarding the anime which are subbed by multiple fansubs and more than one re-encodes are uploaded by hi10. I've seen this happening a lot this season. Now I appreciate the time spent by you to encode two versions, so don't get me wrong.

Why not mux all the subs in just one encode, the one with best video quality? Only thing you needed to be done is - retime one of the subs. Now as far as I know, this needs to be done only thrice, since the only places where difference comes for different fansubs would be before part-b and after part-a, where ads are. All that is to be done is shift times for the subs- once at the beginning, then maybe at the op and then between parts A and B. I think it saves considerable time working for 10 min in Aegisub, rather than encoding a whole new version, which will take 3-4 hours. Of course, it's your choice what to do, thought I'd just say what I thought.

That could work, but mostly dual-releases are done because the video source is different and people want to compare them, obviously we'll never release 2 files that have the same video source, BDs and DVDs don't even need retiming most of the times.
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Post by sjoe92 Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:24 pm

Of course, I'm talking of only ongoing series Smile not BDs. It worked, at least when I tried it... Retiming at a few places. As you say, for people who want to compare, I think there is a website fansub.co or something. Don't know though.

Just thought that it might be better for everyone if you just choose the better video and club the multiple subs in the same, keeping the better sub on as default. That way, those who are not sure which to choose, (i think not everyone frequents crymore or 8ths.in) don't have a tough time and others can just switch to the sub that they want!

Finally of course, it is up to you as you people are the ones encoding, but I'd say no harm in trying. Smile
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Post by Ddustz Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:24 pm

Psychic power... Abo, please.. And I don't even know what am I gonna do in the future, how could you said I gonna replace them with BD? -_-

So far only Abo and Rand that commented on this. I get the idea. You just can't be bothered. I don't know what the exact reasons.
Also we have different way of seeing something's value. So, I will just stop at that about Ordered Chapter.

As for CRC32, Rand, I already thought about that before and seriously that's a really roundabout way to do things. I download with DDL.
And what if I copied the files to another harddisk, how am I supposed to check?
It's don't have to be new rules here at first, just can started as a suggestion to all encoders. This is not the first time people ask for the CRC32, it's been a long time already and yet for some reasons still got ignored. Also what's the use of Personal Message or e-mail if you don't use it?

@sjoe92: It's nice idea. I already tried that few times, but it's not that easy to do re-timing, especially re-timing the typesettings, few milliseconds off and it would looks bad. So it's not really thrice as you said. Well, maybe it's just me that's noob. Hehehh..
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Post by aborwx Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:36 pm

Another reason for the inclusion of the CRC value in the filename is that some people cannot use torrents for whatever reason and therefore cannot simply sync up their files with the torrent to make sure their copy isn't damaged.

I really think people should just stick to 1 sub group per version as its just wasting space on the server to hold multiple versions of the same show. And then tell everybody who wants a different subgroup for their release to fuck off unless the sub group the encoder picked takes too damn long to make a release or their subs are clearly un-watchable due to the subs being terrible instead of things like they use Mr. Blah instead of Blah-san or something along those lines.

And on that note I really want to add a rule to remove 720p versions of shows when we have BD 720p versions of them as nobody in their right mind would download the TV version if the BD one is out.

And the private post we use to communicate can get filled with comments very fast which means that a lot of people will just miss things as they don't want to read through the 50 previous comments to find out what's going on.
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Post by RanDom Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:04 am

sjoe92 wrote:Of course, I'm talking of only ongoing series :)not BDs. It worked, at least when I tried it... Retiming at a few places. As you say, for people who want to compare, I think there is a website fansub.co or something.  Don't know though.

Just thought that it might be better for everyone if you just choose the better video and club the multiple subs in the same, keeping the better sub on as default. That way, those who are not sure which to choose, (i think not everyone frequents crymore or 8ths.in) don't have a tough time and others can just switch to the sub that they want!

Finally of course, it is up to you as you people are the ones encoding, but I'd say no harm in trying. Smile

Crymore or 8ths.in don't compare the video quality, I think they just compare the subs, it really doesn't help if they compare the source, as you know some encodes might look better than others after re-encoding to 10-bit and different settings.

The only reason for multi/dual-releases it was because some groups are faster, or better than others (video quality), see for example Meganebu! (encoding HorribleSubs version right now) and SNK, if we had to use only one group, people would start complaining about “why dont you encode from the other fast group in the meanwhile?!” then we’ll be back to start again, making dual releases exactly like now, so we can just prevent problems by keeping the dual releases as they are now. Also there’re groups who use hardsubs for signs and karaoke, how do you deal with that? I think ditching dual releases is not that easy, in some cases it’s not even possible.

Anyway, there's people who want the faster and people who want the better, I think we can make everyone happy keeping this method, but it's up to the encoder imho.

aborwx wrote:Another reason for the inclusion of the CRC value in the filename is that some people cannot use torrents for whatever reason and therefore cannot simply sync up their files with the torrent to make sure their copy isn't damaged.

Well, I never thought that it was a bad idea but, I can do it for my next releases anyway, it's not a so big deal after all.

aborwx wrote:And on that note I really want to add a rule to remove 720p versions of shows when we have BD 720p versions of them as nobody in their right mind would download the TV version if the BD one is out.

That's true but maybe insead of removing it completely, wouldn't it be better to use an external host for TV releases when BD is done? like MEGA or similar services, this way we can free some space on the server and keep the encode at the same time (after all the encoder spent a lot of time encoding it, just deleting everything is not a good thing), but actually we've still a lot of HDD space, it's not that big of a problem imo.

Ddustz wrote:Also what's the use of Personal Message or e-mail if you don't use it?

I don't get this part, what do you mean exactly?  scratch  sorry for the dumb question.
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Post by Ddustz Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:31 pm

Oh, that's.. you quoting what Abo was saying about private page. I was responding to that. What I mean is, is private page the only way for you guys to contact each other?
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Post by RanDom Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:20 am

Ddustz wrote:Oh, that's.. you quoting what Abo was saying about private page. I was responding to that. What I mean is, is private page the only way for you guys to contact each other?

Ahh that, yes also chatango and email sometimes, but mostly we just leave a message in the pvt post, because many of us have different time zones so we read the new messages always 8-12h later, but when there's something important I always use PMs in chatango because as aborwx said the pvt post gets filled in no time and it's not easy to notice all the important messages.

Anyway, I've started using the crc32 since Meganebu! post and will do the same for my next encodes, but I won't do that for the past releases (I'm thinking about making OC for my releases that don't have it, eventually I will update the file names for those) and I won't ask the others either, because changing the file names means breaking all torrents and I've been fixing torrents every day in the last weeks, I don't want to go through all the fixing of almost 3000 torrents and most of all I don't want to lose all our seeds, so what is already done is done, torrents integrity have the priority imho.
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Post by Ddustz Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:48 pm

No, of course I'm not asking for changing the file names that already uploaded. I'm focusing on future releases. See the thread's title.
But since you mentioning past releases, well, you could put CRC32 anywhere. You could edit the page as you like, don't you? There is also pastebin. I even saw some random good guy commented on a post, giving CRC32 for all the files on that post. http://hi10anime.com/ano-hana/ano-hana/#comment-26674

I'm sorry cause I have no idea what is this private page/post that you keep talking about. Basically, you guys don't have any means to make sticky post or something so that it's not "gets filled in no time"?

Well, I seriously want the encoders here to read these my two requests. Maybe some of you don't want to do it, but please at least read it. Before the next season begin.
And thank you if you already did even at least one of the two request.
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Post by aborwx Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:19 am

The problem with adding CRCs to the page is that we do not have torrents for every single show on the site and thus cannot confirm that our CRC is the right one. And I don't even know if all of us encoders combined have all of the files from the site to get CRC values from. So unless somebody has all of our encodes and decides to go through the trouble of making comments on their own for CRC values on every single page I'm not seeing this happening anytime soon.

The private post is the same as any other post on this site except only encoders have access to it. And I've posted this thread in there along with other changes I would like to see done to the site, but only RanD has replied to them. And below are the 2 huge comments I made on that page.

FIRST COMMENT:
aborwx on December 17, 2013 at 8:27 pm said: Edit
Can you guys stop making torrents for separate episodes (single or batches of like 10-25) and movies of the same series if your the one that’s doing the whole thing (aka a completed series)? As it is just filling up the dropbox folder with files that separates the seeders.

Also, if I want a show I definitely would like to have to only open up one torrent and get everything. Oh but some people don’t want to download the show and its movies at the same time. Fortunately there’s a little feature called checkboxes in torrent programs that allows you to uncheck unwanted files.

And while on the topic of torrents I think we should remove single torrents from series that are completed as suggested in a previous comment as it just makes the singles torrent page take longer to load up. Also, the reason in the previous paragraph would let them choose a single file if they wanted to since we have a batch torrent file. And it would also save RanD a ton of time as he would not be updating single episode torrents anymore when people complain about torrents not being seeded.

Anyways, I’ll be re-doing my posts soon to reflect these changes and I hope you’ll do the same.

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aborwx on December 21, 2013 at 8:09 pm said: Edit
I’d like everybody to read: https://hi10anime.forumur.net/t345-for-the-upcoming-winter-2013-2014 as some new suggestions have been made in that post which I think that everybody should follow.

And to sum it up currently (cutoff point is my second comment).

1) Include CRC values in filenames so that people who cannot use torrents can validate their files integrity.

2) Use only 1 subgroup per release, otherwise put some effort into re-timing the different subgroups into 1 file.

3) Delete TV versions of shows in resolutions we have BD versions of to save server space as I believe we have a limit of 5TB. (ie delete 720p if we have BD 720p) and it also would make transferring our files to a new server faster and clean up the amount of torrent files we have in the dropbox torrent collection. And on that note, do not release an OC and UnOCd version of a release of an encode like I saw on: http://hi10anime.com/gundam-build-fighters/gundam-build-fighters-10-bit-720p/ recently as that is just wasting server space.

Some more stuff.
1) You guys need to read the rules here and stop putting stuff onto different pages like OVAs or Movies or BD releases on their own like on to try and boost your post count or whatever.
And a good example of something that breaks this rule is: http://hi10anime.com/meitantei-conan/detective-conan-ova-10-bit-396p-480p/ which splits the OVA/Movie/Series into their own little post.

And: http://hi10anime.com/mononoke-hime/mononoke-hime-bd-720p-multi-audio/ should have been posted on: http://hi10anime.com/mononoke-hime/mononoke-hime-10-bit-dvd-464p-dual-audio/ so that people can see all the different versions of it in 1 place.

And: http://hi10anime.com/tantei-opera-milky-holmes/tantei-opera-milky-holmes-ova-10-bit-720p/ does not need the | ova in its title.

Also, http://hi10anime.com/fairy-tail/fairy-tail-houou-no-miko-10-bit-dvd-576p-bd-720p/ should be on: http://hi10anime.com/fairy/fairy/ to keep things together as I noticed that the movie was previously on the page thanks to my super detective skills: http://hi10anime.com/wp-admin/revision.php?revision=40834 so move it back. And on that note you should be using | to separate different resolutions instead of , .

And DDF57, your CSS is off since if moves the stars to the center of the post.

2) You guys need to remove extraneous torrents and combine stuff if you can as stated in a previous comment on this page: http://hi10anime.com/private/hi10-anime/#comment-40369 .

And here’s a good example of what a page should look like: http://hi10anime.com/teekyuu/teekyuu/ when you have multiple seasons on 1 page including a currently airing one, however, I have not deleted my 720p encode yet as I’m currently unable to connect to our server. And recently aired shows like High School DxD New should be merged onto the post with more ratings to keep everything together.

3) Add an audio tag at the end of titles to let people who use torrents and do not read the files post page know its a dual/multi audio release which I have not done myself but have seen on some of KaZz’s release if my memory serves me right.
ex: [Hi10]_show_[BD_180p]_[Dual_Audio]
and (Hi10)_show_-_##_(BD_180p)_(crc)_(Dual_Audio).mkv
But then again we don’t include the source groups name in the folder for a series so I’m undecided about this one.

And I’ll edit my posts/filenames to reflect the above changes soonTM.
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Post by RanDom Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:09 am

abo again the whole thing? xD then I'm gonna copypaste my comment too Razz

RanD on December 21, 2013 at 11:42 pm said:

About the multiple releases, the only reason it was because some groups are faster, or better than others (video quality), see for example Meganebu! and SNK, if we had to use only one group, people would start complaining about “why dont you encode from the other fast group in the meanwhile?!” then we’ll be back to start again, making dual releases exactly like now, so we can just prevent problems by keeping the dual releases as they are now. Also there’re groups who use hardsubs for signs and karaoke, how do we deal with that? I think ditching dual releases is not that easy, in some cases it’s not even possible.

For the rest, I’ll leave a reply in the forums.

Regarding the torrents, yes we really need to remove single torrents for completed series too and make batch torrents, so that everything can be submitted to torrent trackers and stuff like that, is better to do it now that the season just ended, because in a week or 2 people won’t need it anymore.

That's all Razz


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Post by RanDom Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:34 am

Ddustz wrote:No, of course I'm not asking for changing the file names that already uploaded. I'm focusing on future releases. See the thread's title.
But since you mentioning past releases, well, you could put CRC32 anywhere. You could edit the page as you like, don't you? There is also pastebin. I even saw some random good guy commented on a post, giving CRC32 for all the files on that post. http://hi10anime.com/ano-hana/ano-hana/#comment-26674

I'm sorry cause I have no idea what is this private page/post that you keep talking about. Basically, you guys don't have any means to make sticky post or something so that it's not "gets filled in no time"?

Well, I seriously want the encoders here to read these my two requests. Maybe some of you don't want to do it, but please at least read it. Before the next season begin.
And thank you if you already did even at least one of the two request.

Sorry but OC is something that people have to get used to, the purpose of Hi10 Anime is to save space and release better quality encodes, using that saved extra space. As everyone who downloaded OC releases knows, OC saves even 25-30% of space, just take a look at Kakumeiki Valvrave:
http://hi10anime.com/kakumeiki-valvrave/kakumeiki-valvrave/

First Season: Op1 + Ed1 + Ed2 + Ed3 = 124 MB

I don't remember which Op/Ed belongs to which episode but OC saved at least 60 MB for each episode, of season one. Then:

Second Season: Op + Ed = 74 MB

This is clear, OC saved 74 MB for each episode of season two. Now let's make a total:
Season 1 = Saved 60 MB Each Ep. = Saved 720 MB
Season 2 = Saved 74 MB Each Ep. = Saved 740 MB (only 10 episodes, since it's not ended).

There's no logical reason to ditch ordered chapters for ongoing series, for people who don't like OC, or for people who cannot set up correctly their media player, there're AVI/MP4 files from Nyaa and other sites.

If you notice problems with some OC'ed file, just leave a comment and whoever encoded it will make a patch for it, or people don't like patches too? it's not like you have to do anything besides double clicking (with your mouse) the .BAT file, though I know some people don't use mouses Razz

PS: another perfect example of OC advantages is Coppelion, the OP alone is 116 MB!


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Post by sjoe92 Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:01 am

Hey, calm down. You don't need to be so arrogant (don't know if you meant it that way, but that is how you sounded to me). His point that you don't know if a series will keep the same op/ed or keep changing it, is valid. I reckon that it is best to wait 2-3 episodes to check if the op/ed are changing, and then decide whether to do oc or not, that is a better compromise. I think zeust or someone did that this season.

And I didn't want to raise this issue, but on another note, I don't know if outright rejecting some suggestion, like above is the way to go. This page is for suggestions, and people don't just say whatever comes to their mind without thinking. Even my suggestion regarding muxing multiple subs together- I know it is not possible in all cases, but wherever it can be done, then why not do it? A little more respectful tone is found wanting. Maybe something like, "Yes, we'll keep that in mind".
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Post by RanDom Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:41 am

Oops I meant it jokingly though, sorry about that didn't mean anything bad actually, anyway, about waiting before making OC of course it's possible, it has been done before, wait 2-3 episodes and then make OC and release patches.

We don't know if the op/ed are going to change but most of the times it doesn't, or if it changes it usually changes once, like Meganebu! for example, they just added some text-disappearence effects in the ending credits after ep 4 or 5 iirc, I didn't do 2 EDs in HS release of Meganebu! because it wasn't worth the trouble for everyone, another example where it changed once or twice is SNK Lag-Taka when they did redraw most of the OP completely, and then the OP changed too after the recap episode but for a 25 episodes just 2 openings is not bad, it still saved almost 1GB of space overall (the patches for 12-13.5-13 chapters was a mistake of mine completely unrelated to OC, because I used the "sub-chapters" to make the eyecatch, which caused glitches in K-Lite and KCP, I'm using CCCP which worked flawlessly so I didnt even notice the glitch).

In the end, I think OC is just like betting on the show itself, most of the times it's still worth it, so that why I don't see where's all the big deal with OC, but I guess it's just me.

Anyway, I won't lie to him, if I think that it's not worth it, I just say it, it's not like I'm attacking anyone, should I lie about what I think so that it won't sound bad? it's not like I'm a representative of Hi10 or something like that, if you think so you're incredibly wrong, everyone else can say the opposite of what I think, there's no problem for me, if they say that they'll drop OC it's ok I won't complain, after all it's not like veryone always used OC if you see most of the recent release.

Probably I'm not capable of dealing with suggestions, if my answers sound offensive I'll just stop here, I didn't intend to offend anyone.
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Post by sjoe92 Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:03 am

Oh god, no my dear RanDom, no! Please don't take it that way. Please don't take it as an attack on you. I've known you to be receptive enough in the past and said so as well I believe (recall some of my very first posts and some PMs). Just that I felt your tone here sounded angry, or maybe exasperated, don't know. I didn't mean it in general about you so please don't take it that way.

If there is one thing that I've learnt on the internet, it's that it is easy to offend people without realising. Just like I felt your last para in the comment about oc that way, and you felt my previous comment. My point was that you could have put the same thing differently, like 'I can try this whenever possible, but it won't work in so and so cases'. And I didn't just mean it for you but everyone here in general (Yes, I am also guilty of arrogance often).

Let's try to take positives out of it- like I said before, don't drop OC, but wait for a few episodes to see if it changes with every episode or just changes once, like it does in many 2 cour series. First 2-3 episodes can be released without OC. If it remains the same, upload the OCed versions then onwards! Better than directly starting with oc and later realising that op/ed are changing.

PS - Of course I know you are not the only representative of hi10 Smile but among the most active ones, surely. Cheer up guys, it's still christmas time. Let's forgive each other and take the best out of what everyone says. Very Happy Belated merry christmas and bye-bye.
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Post by RanDom Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:13 pm

Okay.. but I don't see what's the difference:

1) making the oc only after ep one, if the op/ed don't change, we're going to use OC for the remaining episodes and release a patch for episode one, if op/ed changes then no more oc.

What if we do the other way around?

2) make oc since ep one and if ep 2 changes then we don't make oc anymore and release a patch for episode one, if op/ed don't change then we keep making oc.

It's 50/50, even though from what I've seen until now the op/ed in recent series didn't change or if it changed, it changed once (or twice in the longer series), like I've said before.
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Post by ParadoxVoid Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:04 pm

Regarding the OC, I think it's a fine balancing act, and probably needs to be considered in context of the entire show - some are more likely to have new OPs than others, just due to their nature being more "zany" (hard to quantify, I know). With currently airing series, it's a problem if the encoder decides to OC, and then the show changes OP every episode, for example - see the problems Aborwx ran into when he decided to OC Danganronpa. Having a lot of issues with the server around that time probably didn't help either.

It might be worth thinking about doing a "3 episode" test, on new anime (or at least ones that you think may end up changing OPs regularly). Since by the third week you should for certain be able to confirm what the OP will be like for the majority of the season.
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Post by sjoe92 Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:42 am

Agreed with you RanD, your way is certainly more logical, if you want to optimise for the number of patches, considering the fact that Op's/Ed's are more likely to remain the same than change with every episode.

Bah, don't know why I'm still commenting so much when I don't even watch more than a third of the op's and ed's and just skip the rest! Never mind my jabbering Neutral
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Post by RanDom Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:42 pm

Based on this season, we had the following oc'ed releases:

Arpeggio of Blue Steel: Ars Nova - 1 Op/3 Ed
Coppelion - 1 Op/1 Ed (note: op size = 116 mb)
Diabolik Lovers - 1 Op/1 Ed
Freezing Vibration - 1 Op/2 Ed
Galilei Donna - No Oc.
Gifuu Doudou!!: Kanetsugu to Keiji - No Oc.
Gingitsune - 1 Op/1 Ed
Golden Time - 1 Op/1 Ed
Hajime no Ippo: Rising - 1 Op/1 Ed
Infinite Stratos 2 - No Oc.
Kakumeiki Valvrave 2nd Season - 1 Op/1 Ed
Kikou Shoujo wa Kizutsukanai - 1 Op/3 Ed
Kill La Kill - 1 Op/2 Ed
Kingdom S2 - No Oc.
Kitakubu Katsudou Kiroku - 1 Op/4 Ed
Koroshiya-san – The Hired Gun - No Oc.
Kuroko no Basuke S2 - Dual Release: 1 Op | No Oc.
Kyoukai no Kanata - Triple Release: 1 Op/1 Ed
Kyousou Giga (TV) - No Oc.
Little Busters!: Refrain - 1 Op
Log Horizon - 1 Op/1 Ed
Magi - No Oc.
Meganebu! - 1 Op/1 Ed
Miss Monochrome - No Oc.
Monogatari Second Series - No Oc.
Nagi no Asukara - Dual Release: 1 Op/1 Ed
Non Non Biyori - 1 Op/1 Ed
NouKome - No Oc.
Outbreak Company - 1 Op/1 Ed
Phi Brain: Kami no Puzzle S3 - 1 Op/2 Ed
Sekai de Ichiban Tsuyoku Naritai! - 1 Op/1 Ed
Samurai Flamenco - No Oc.
Strike the Blood - 1 Op/2 Ed
Super Seisyun Brothers - No Oc.
Teekyuu 3 - 1 Op/1 Ed
Tokyo Ravens - Dual Release: 1 Ed | 1 Op/1 Ed
Walkure Romanze - 1 Op/1 Ed
White Album 2 - 1 Op
Yowamushi Pedal - No Oc.
Yozakura Quartet Hana no Uta - 2 Op/1 Ed
Yuusha ni Narenakatta Ore wa Shibushibu Shuushoku wo Ketsui Shimashita - No Oc.

Probably I missed something, but most of the stuff that aired this season didn't have an high amount of different op/ed's and some stuff wasn't even oc'ed.
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Post by sjoe92 Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:19 pm

Whoa, quite a compilation there! Anyway I'm convinced. I agree with your way; it is more logical. And looks like crc vales will also be implemented. Nice.
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